i dunno that i would pay $27 to see her face...
oz
don't think i have ever seen a picture of her.
check this out: .
http://cgi.ebay.com/j-f-rutherford-and-wife-circa-1920-watchtower-witness_w0qqitemz300343161340qqcmdzviewitemqqptzart_photo_images?hash=item45edd8f1fc.
i dunno that i would pay $27 to see her face...
oz
i ve just read the blog asking what sort of man a woman wants!
i am fed up in this world that men don't stand up and start letting the sisters in the world know what we really need.
lets take the game to them!!.
Every man will want something different from a woman i think. Some are just happy to have a wife who cooks and lets them go fishing, another may want a partner who serves their every whim.
The challenge is to be who we are right up front, Never giving a false impression of who we are or what we like or do. If we are up front and honest to ourself, we will mostly attract the sort of woman who is looking for what she sees in us. If she sees potential to change us, then she's the wrong one. When you get married and all of a sudden the wife/husband changes, then they were the wrong one. People who are right for each other, see each other as they are, like it and stick around.
You dont have to take the game to them, just be you. If they dont like it, they are the wrong one for you.
thats my 10 cents worth anyway...
oz
so it appears that jws are letting their freaky side come out on fb for everyone to see.. there was talk on the ca yesterday strongly warning all true lovers of jehovah to delete their fb accounts.
the talk was solely about fb.
the speaker mentioned that jws are associating with people that would not associate with in real life, often using the excuse that the person is a relative.
Goes to show that the GB does moniter the net, and no doubt this forum too. How long before FB becomes a disfellowshipping offence i wonder....?
I warned my kids about religions that seek to control the internet use of its members... i wonder if this will be part of the 2010 CA's here in Aust?
oz
i haven't followed the generation change in the doctrine that closely, just read a few snippets of the overlapping generations doctrine.
i find this hard to believe even for the pathological liars the governing body.. has anyone seen the 4/15/2010 watchtower with their own eyes?.
can anyone validate that the wtbts really is saying this overlapping generation idea the way it is being quoted on the internet in a few places?
I asked a friend how he would interpret generation of 1914... he said they would last oh, 7o years or so.
NOBODY in their right mind can turn generation into a tag team 200 y event.
oz
I was a goody two shoes most of my JW time, the last two years in i was naughty, the next 9 were naughty, the last 3 not so much. I have the freedom to do the things that are 'naughty' so i dont feel the drive to do them so much. Sometimes its more fun being naughty when you are not allowed to be...
the biggest difference is i no longer feel guilty about who i am or what i do.
oz
for leaving him (1.5 y ago) and for being a person he doesn't recognize anymore for leaving the org.. he still has feelings for me and still grieves every day that we're not together...i know it shouldn't get to me but it does...i had no choice but to leave him...i was so miserable for so many reasons but when i hear how sad he is it makes me sad.
(we have to have some contact coz of the apartment we lived in, unfortunately).
i just wish he could move on but he says he can't even look at another woman.. also, of course, he had to say that jehovah still loves me and that the end is sooooooooo near, just look at haiti!.
I feel for you, i have been where you are. To leave my wife to overcome extreme unhappiness was the single most hard thing i have ever done. She did not deserve it, nor really do anything to cause it. The pain she went through was heartbreaking. Most people cannot fathom the why? My guilty feelings took a long time to get over. She still loved me for a long time. Even after my D/Fing she wanted to try again. I just could not return to somebody i could not honestly love anymore, nor who would not accept the new me. Unfortunatly she then turned it into the most vitriolic hate i have also ever experienced even after she remarried.
His happiness is not your responsability.
hope it gets easier for you. It took me the better part of 3 years to get over it...
oz
okay, the disfellowshipping doctrine is inhumane, usually.
but, i remember a "brother" in jacksonville, florida, can't remember his name, i was 17 at the time, i think he was 18. this scumbag claimed to be a jehovah's witness.
we went to the same school.
I tend to also agree that the disfellowshipping announcement should state the reason. But if not, at least with no shunning or threat of being disfellowshipped for talking to the person, the real reasons could be sought out.
But in the case of the witnesses, they can never afford to do away with the shunning. For to do so would uncover the extent of 'apostacy' and doubts over many things. That just would not do would it?!
Palmtree: I was D/F after two years of seperation. It took that long to feel ok about myself and my new course. 12 months of that were also spent fighting off a new friends advances. When i committed adultery it was to end my marriage, to free my ex to move on. It was symbolic of the end of the marriage, that i would never return to her. The act i must admit, destroyed me. I had a nervous collapse that took a long time to recover from. I knew the D/f was going to happen and it did within a week of telling my ex. I felt at the time and still do, that i broke the rules and should be removed. I knew the 'rules' when i got baptized. What gets me mad was that because of the shunning, NOBODY was 'allowed' to get to know the anguish that i went through, nor why i actually did the deed. And that 10 years later, NOBODY knows why i wont go back. The guilt you feel will fade if you allow yourself to see that where you are now is a far better place. When i let go of the christain concept of marriage and sex i could not feel guilty about being a human either.
oz
the jw's annual report has lots of numbers to consider, but this one is probably the most misquoted and misrepresented by them.. 1, 500, 000, 000 hours in the field (note: that's time in the field, not talking to interested ones).
now, they can write their own rules on how to fill out a field service report.
door to door - 8 hours (480 minutes) using the 'dissed rule' of 10% that's 48 minutes of actual talking in the field per month.
When we went 'rural' witnessing, a car of say 4 people might get to 20 farms, find only 5 at home and talk to the uninterested farmers wives for about 2 mins each. divide that by 4 people and depending on who's turn it was, you could do 6 hours in the counrty and speak to nobody outside the car! I liked being that person the best.
oz
is it such a bad thing to have sex before marriage?.
should you "try before you buy"?.
Well, after being a virgin at the first marriage, and having notches on my belt by the second, i confirm that sex before marriage is not only advisable but should jolly well be part of getting to know each other properly before getting hitched for sure!
It's only a sin if you believe it is
oz
knock, knock.... hh (householder): yes?
dub1: good morning.
we are working with a group of your neighbors today sharing some christian good news about the future.
I'd like to print that and sticky tape it to the inside of my door frame in case i ever need it!
that is classic
Oz